I sat down with Johnson at an occasion for folks inquisitive about longevity in Berkeley, California, in late April. We spoke on the sidelines after lunch (convention plastic-lidded container meal for me; what gave the impression to be a plastic-free, compostable field of hen and greens for him), and he sat with an impeccable posture, his expression impartial.
Earlier that morning, Johnson, in worn trainers and the form of hoodie that’s nearly definitely deceptively costly, had advised the viewers about what he noticed as the top of humanity. Particularly, he was fearful about AI—that we face an “occasion horizon,” some extent at which superintelligent AI escapes human understanding and management. He had come to Berkeley to steer people who find themselves inquisitive about longevity to focus their efforts on AI.
It’s this explicit concern that finally underpins his Don’t Die mission. First, people should embrace the Don’t Die ideology. Then we should guarantee AI is aligned with preserving human existence. Have been it not for AI, he says, he wouldn’t be doing any of his anti-death actions and regimens. “I’m satisfied that we’re at an existential second as a species,” says Johnson, who was raised Mormon however has since left the church. Fixing getting older will take many years, he says—we’ll survive that lengthy provided that we make it possible for AI is aligned with human survival.
The next Q&A has been flippantly edited for size and readability.
Why are you creating a brand new faith?
We’re on this new section the place [because of advances in AI] we’re attempting to reimagine what it means to be human. It requires creativeness and creativity and open-mindedness, and that’s a giant ask. Approaching that dialog as a group, or a life-style, doesn’t carry sufficient weight or energy. Religions have confirmed, over the previous a number of thousand years, to be probably the most efficacious type to prepare human efforts. It’s only a tried-and-true methodology.
How do you go about founding a brand new faith?
It’s a superb query. If you happen to have a look at historic [examples], Buddha went by means of his personal self-exploratory course of and got here up with a framework. And Muhammad had a narrative. Jesus had an origin story … You may even say Satoshi [Nakamoto, the mysterious creator of bitcoin] is like [the founder of] a modern-day faith, [launched] with the white paper. Adam Smith launched capitalism along with his e-book. The query is: What’s a modern-day faith, and the way does it persuade? It’s an open query for me. I don’t know but.